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For # 2, when an AI ramps down from an alert, I assume you mean the moment when he ramps down to Idle or Alert_Idle. That's the point where he emits his rampdown barks. If he goes back to Idle state, where he sheathes his weapon, do you still want him to delay greetings? It seems he's in a more relaxed place in Idle than in Idle_Alert, where he patrols with his weapon drawn. |
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For # 3, should a passing friendly AI give the player a warning, the same way that AI would warn his other friends? |
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Re 2: My understanding is that AI do not do greetings at all when in alert_idle state; if this isn't the case now then it should be. AI with their swords out should not be saying, "Quiet night, huh?" to people as they pass...if anything, they should give warnings, not greetings. So 2 would apply when the AI ramps down to regular idle mode. We don't want him greeting someone with a cheery, "Hello there," after just searching together. 3 .... hmmm, I guess so? I'm having a hard time imagining scenarios where this would happen. |
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The code allows greetings in any state below Observant. This means idle and alert idle both allow greetings, since both are Relaxed, the only state below Observant. I'll change it so greetings are no longer exchanged when a weapon is drawn. |
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For # 3, you said "on the same team". That's different than "is a friend of mine". Builders (team 1) and City Watch (team 2) are friendly to each other. If I put the player on the Builder team, should City Watch guards exchange greetings with me? I think they should, but I want to make sure. |
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Yes, sorry, I meant friendly. |
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Okay, thanks. The code is all in place. It's strange walking around among friendly AI and having them greet me. I'll probably spend tomorrow testing and commit it tomorrow night. |
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1. AI should not give greetings to other AI who are alert (even if they aren't alert themselves...you wouldn't walk up to a guard with his sword out and chat). FIXED by checking whether the receiving AI has a weapon drawn. 2. AI shouldn't greet other AI within X minutes of ramping down from an alert. Maybe Level x .5 minutes. FIXED by delaying the ability to greet others by highest alert index achieved divided by 2 minutes. So an AI coming down from combat would delay greetings by 5/2 = 2.5 minutes after he reaches the Alert Idle state. 3. AI should (IMO) greet the player if they are on the same team (or possibly neutral). FIXED by letting friendly or neutral AI greet the player. They can also warn the player about things that have alerted them. rev. 5716: IdleState.cpp State.cpp GreetingBarkTask.cpp AI.cpp AI.h AI_events.cpp Memory.cpp Memory.h Actor.cpp Actor.h Player.cpp Player.h |
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"So an AI coming down from combat would delay greetings by 5/2 = 2.5 minutes after he reaches the Alert Idle state." Earlier you said "I'll change it so greetings are no longer exchanged when a weapon is drawn." I'm a bit confused by that example. Wouldn't an AI coming down from combat have a weapon out and therefore not greet at all? |
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SVN has a new windows DLL in tdm_game01.pk4. Remember to delete darkmod/gamex86.dll before testing. |
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"Greetings are different from warnings, correct? Shouldn't AI who have been in combat be warning other AI about an intruder, rather than saying, "Nice night, isn't it?" three minutes after fighting an intruder?" Yes, and he will not wait three minutes to give a warning. He only waits three minutes to pass greetings, which he will never again do if he has a warning to pass along. Warnings take precedent over greetings, and only greetings wait for the delay to expire. |
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