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Note to self, for when I get around to this: idPlayer::CrashLand() uses this code to play the landing footstep: ------------------ if (result.hasLanded && ( (!AI_CROUCH && savedVelocity.z < -300) || savedVelocity.z < -600) ) { hasLanded = true; PlayFootStepSound(); } else { hasLanded = false; } -------------- So it looks like the player has to have a downward velocity larger than 600 before we hear a footstep when crouched. Will need to test jumping and dropping off things to see how fast we're going when we hit. Apparently the original designers intended for some landings to be silent. |
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I have no idea what the thinking was behind that system. I think what would make the most sense would be to use the default method of creating a crashland footstep sound, but reduce the volume by 5 (the same amount walking is reduced) if the player is crouched. |
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Code said you had to be traveling faster than 600 downward before making a landing sound when crouched. When standing, you only had to be traveling faster than 300. Changed it so you’ll make a sound crouching or standing when traveling faster than 300, but when crouched, the sound volume is decreased by 7dB. (2dB was already there, and I added 5dB.) I also reduced the volume of the propagated sound by 5dB. Rev. 5829: Player.cpp |
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I cannot confirm this fix. When I jump into the air and land on stone, I hear player landing sound and nearby AI is alerted. When I jump into the air and crouch before landing, no sound is propogated to nearby AI, and I don't hear a player landing sound either. When I climb onto the 5' ledge in Sound/Blackjack Training Map and crouchwalk off the edge, I hear a small footstep sound on landing, but no sound propogates to AI even when directly behind him. |
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I tried this in the sound trainer. The first case worked fine. The second case worked fine when jumping on wood or metal. Didn't try others. You don't happen to have an old gamex86.dll lying around, do you? What surface type were you landing on in the second case? |
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I was testing in the stone hallway. I thought I deleted the .dll but I'll double-check. edit: no go. Still no sound when jumping up and landing crouched on stone. |
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I tested on stone, and he was able to hear a crouchwalk/drop from the ledge when I was close to him (alert level went to 3.66), and a ways away (alert level went to 1.18). I redelivered tdm_game01.pk4 (rev 13556). If that still doesn't work for you, I'll have to send you a DLL with debug printouts in it so I can see what's going on. |
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Latest revision works. |
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Okay, good. |
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Are there any values in this that are exposed in def files? I'd like to test some different settings here, to see how slightly quieter landing sounds feel. |
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The audible sound and propagated sound math uses the volumes given in the sound shader and the tdm_propagated_sounds.def files, respectively. Look for the matching "sprGS_*" sound in the def file. |
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Which sound do they use though? I would guess one of the following, but I don't know how to determine which: sprGS_footstep_default sprGS_footstep_default_walk sprGS_footstep_default_jump |
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sprGS_footstep_default_jump If the player is crouched, I take 5dB off the propagated volume. |
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I tested crouch-dropping on wood a bit more. I think the sound of falling is reasonable when compared to walking or running, but given that we don't have reverse mantling or any other way for players to drop quietly, I think reducing the volume of crouch-landing further is warranted. Perhaps -7dB? |
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Rev 5874: Changed drop from -5 to -7. |
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Need feedback on whether crouch-landing is better, or if we need to do more work. |
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I tested that spot in Betrayal again. Before the change I was getting a sound of about 27.5. Now I'm getting 26.75. Does that sound right for change of -2db? I thought there would be more of a reduction. It still sends him to Alert Level 3. I'm hesitant to reduce it further...-10 is the default for a closed door, right? edit: I'm testing reducing the alert_factor of jumping from 1 to .9. Jumping will still travel but won't cause quite as strong a reaction. |
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-10 is the default for a closed door. |
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Reducing the alert factor seems to work. The builder in Betrayal now goes to a level 2 alert, which seems about right. |
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