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|ID||Project||Category||View Status||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|0000054||DarkRadiant||GUI||public||27.01.2007 02:43||28.02.2007 21:24|
|Fixed in Version||0.9.0|
|Summary||0000054: Translate Mode (w) more friendly functionality|
Translate Mode (W)
Possibly my most pressed key in D3Ed. I'm glad it exists in DR. However, it acts a bit different. In D3Ed, you press W, and then anywhere you click and drag, you affect the selected entities (for translation). In DR, the user must either click the brush itself, or one of the directional arrows extending out of the brush(es). This requirement pretty much eliminates the convenience and use of the feature at all, because if the user could simply click the brush, they don't really even need a translate lock key. The whole advantage (in D3Ed) to having this locked mode is that you don't have to pinpoint your brush(es) and drag them - you can drag anywhere in, out, or around them, and they'll still move, completely intact.
Edit: If/when making these changes, please don't remove the axis lock arrows - they rule!
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|Clicking anywhere in the orthoview can select the translate manipulator. An option has been added (Preferences > Orthoview) to choose whether this "click-anywhere-to-translate" is constrained to an axis or if it's interpreted as free translation.|
|I'm guessing this must not be uploaded yet. I don't see this value in options, nor the drag anywhere behavior.|
greebo: don't kill me.
I know that above, I said, "Edit: If/when making these changes, please don't remove the axis lock arrows - they rule!"
I was actually referring to not getting rid of them when specifically clicking the arrows and the little box in the center. The axis locking seems to carry out into the whole grid. I originally imagined that the gridspace dragging would be the free translate mode. If the user still needs axis locking for fine control, he'd probably be close enough to the brush to click the arrows anyway. Can that either be an option, or not there (if you guys agree it's a good idea). Reason being, after using the 'total grid translate mode' here, it seems the axis locking kinda gets in the way.
So to clarify: the arrows and functionality definitely should stay, they do indeed rule. But I'm not positive it should extend to the full grid dragging. What do you guys think? I could go either way and we can probably consider this closed now, but I thought I would ask before closing it.
|I don't get it, please explain more clearly. What is it you refer to as "gridspace dragging"? Do you want to have axis-locked translation if you click anywhere in the view? (If yes, have you tried pressing SHIFT while dragging?)|
By 'gridspace dragging' I'm trying to come up with a term for this new functionality (in this issue). I don't know what else to call it.
Shift while dragging is select complete tall for me (and hopefully stays that way)?
Okay, to try and be more clear - I think what I said in the original entry was misinterpretted. What I meant:
Make it so the arrows function as they currently do, and everywhere else in the whole view acts like the little box in the center (drag in either orthogonal direction at once).
Try dragging and holding shift AFTER you began the actual translation. The operation is immediately constrained to the axes.
"...everywhere else in the whole view acts like the little box in the center (drag in either orthogonal direction at once)."
Currently, if you click anywhere in the view the translation is not constrained to the axis, isn't that what you're requesting? The little yellow box in the center is "free translation", as is clicking anywhere in the view.
"Try dragging and holding shift AFTER you began the actual translation. The operation is immediately constrained to the axes."
Right, that happens to me only if I click in the yellow box.
"Currently, if you click anywhere in the view the translation is not constrained to the axis, isn't that what you're requesting? The little yellow box in the center is "free translation", as is clicking anywhere in the view."
Okay we are talking about the same thing. But, it's not doing that for me. If I click in the view, I get axis constraining based what looks like 45 degree quadrants. E.g., clicking outside of the brush, all the way across the map, to the immediate right of the brush, gives me horizontal motion only. Clicking at the top, gives me vertical motion only. I'm not getting the same behavior as the yellow box, so that's why I'm asking. :)
Argh! I forgot to tell you: there's a preference under "Preferences>Orthographic" (the last option). Tick it off.
(I had implemented this all the way and then I realised that it was more practical to have the gridspace translator in free-translation mode by default - That's why I made it a preference. I forget my own changes, I should really take a break!)
|Awesome! Thanks for the option. :)|
|27.01.2007 02:43||SneaksieDave||New Issue|
|27.01.2007 02:47||SneaksieDave||Product Version||=> 0.8.0|
|27.01.2007 02:47||SneaksieDave||Description Updated|
|27.01.2007 10:02||orbweaver||Status||new => confirmed|
|10.02.2007 19:17||SneaksieDave||Description Updated|
|27.02.2007 16:05||greebo||Status||confirmed => resolved|
|27.02.2007 16:05||greebo||Fixed in Version||=> latest SVN|
|27.02.2007 16:05||greebo||Resolution||open => fixed|
|27.02.2007 16:05||greebo||Assigned To||=> greebo|
|27.02.2007 16:05||greebo||Note Added: 0000260|
|28.02.2007 01:09||SneaksieDave||Note Added: 0000267|
|28.02.2007 20:32||SneaksieDave||Status||resolved => feedback|
|28.02.2007 20:32||SneaksieDave||Resolution||fixed => reopened|
|28.02.2007 20:32||SneaksieDave||Note Added: 0000280|
|28.02.2007 20:40||greebo||Note Added: 0000282|
|28.02.2007 20:53||SneaksieDave||Note Added: 0000283|
|28.02.2007 20:54||SneaksieDave||Note Edited: 0000283|
|28.02.2007 20:57||SneaksieDave||Note Edited: 0000283|
|28.02.2007 21:00||greebo||Note Added: 0000284|
|28.02.2007 21:01||greebo||Note Edited: 0000284|
|28.02.2007 21:11||SneaksieDave||Note Added: 0000287|
|28.02.2007 21:18||greebo||Note Added: 0000291|
|28.02.2007 21:19||greebo||Note Edited: 0000291|
|28.02.2007 21:24||SneaksieDave||Status||feedback => closed|
|28.02.2007 21:24||SneaksieDave||Note Added: 0000293|
|28.02.2007 21:24||SneaksieDave||Resolution||reopened => fixed|