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0005892The Dark ModFeature proposalpublic26.01.2023 21:16
ReporterBikerdude Assigned Tonbohr1more  
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityhave not tried
Status suspendedResolutionopen 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS Version10 (21H1)
Product VersionTDM 2.10 
Target VersionTDM 2.12 
Summary0005892: Cant mantle while carring a body
DescriptionI appreciate not being able to jump, but can we atleast mantle like we can in T1/2..?
Additional InformationInternal discussion:

https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21550-5982-allow-mantle-when-shouldering/
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Bikerdude

Bikerdude

06.08.2022 10:21

reporter   ~0015129

If this is not possible, this tracker can be closed.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

07.08.2022 04:35

reporter   ~0015141

I agree. Being able to mantle while carrying a body would feel more natural. I wonder why that was disabled.

I've attached a patch.
mantle-carry-body-v1-r10063.diff (643 bytes)   
diff --git game/Player.cpp game/Player.cpp
index 28decdb..df69a47 100644
--- game/Player.cpp
+++ game/Player.cpp
@@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ const int HEALTHPULSE_TIME = 333;
 const float MIN_BOB_SPEED = 5.0f;
 
 // shouldered body immobilizations
-const int SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS = EIM_CLIMB | EIM_ITEM_SELECT | EIM_WEAPON_SELECT | EIM_ATTACK | EIM_ITEM_USE | EIM_MANTLE | EIM_FROB_COMPLEX;
+const int SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS = EIM_CLIMB | EIM_ITEM_SELECT | EIM_WEAPON_SELECT | EIM_ATTACK | EIM_ITEM_USE | EIM_FROB_COMPLEX;
 const float SHOULDER_JUMP_HINDERANCE = 0.25f;
 
 // grayman #3485 - additional volume reduction when falling when crouched
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

08.08.2022 00:55

developer   ~0015148

I might have to convert this to a cheat cvar.
We need to verify that no current missions rely on restricting body relocation by surrounding the victim in a mantle trap.
Internal discussion started.
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

08.08.2022 07:54

reporter   ~0015151

Can said cvar be added to a config file? I would use while mapping etc.
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

08.08.2022 12:36

developer   ~0015154

There is an ongoing discussion about cvar control in general. That is issue 5453.
I had worked out a way to make mission specific cvar toggles temporary but it was a bit "Rube Goldberg" in nature so the proposed change was rejected.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

08.08.2022 22:36

reporter   ~0015156

If there is a mission that has a mantle trap, that would hinder improving the movement system for all current and future missions?
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

09.08.2022 02:43

developer   ~0015157

Last edited: 09.08.2022 02:44

The general notion is that we want to try as best as possible not to break multiple missions by making them too easy or
changing the inherent tension and risk \ reward factors. That said, let's say that only one mission is impacted but the mission author
is one of our most prominent contributors. Allowing their mission to be broken by this change could cause other less prominent
mission authors to lose trust in the project.

All this said, this discussion has provoked some interesting discussions about whether "low mantle" should allow this as a realism factor
whereas mantling to high places would still not allow it. Even a change like that might cause some issues with existing missions but it may
be worth the potential upheaval to make the game richer by partially allowing this behavior.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

09.08.2022 03:18

reporter   ~0015158

Thank you for explaining that. I can see how that's a tough decision.

I'd personally like to see at least a low mantle so that stepping up around knee/waist level would be possible, like stepping up onto a bed or a high step.

Would something like a DML (from Thief) be possible for old missions? That way, the engine can improve but still have a way to "fix" some older missions to be as they were originally designed. I guess something like that can already be done with an autoexec.cfg file. Maybe have a cvar that doesn't get archived, which would be some kind of mantle override to disable mantle while shouldering.

Is there a place where I can see that discussion? I think TDM is a really nice project and wonder how everyone collaborates.
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

09.08.2022 06:21

reporter   ~0015159

+1 on low mantle, you can do it in Thief 1/2.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

21.01.2023 19:13

reporter   ~0015840

@nbohr1more What's the status on this? What was the conclusion of the internal discussion?
Has a single mantle trap been found in any of the missions already released?

It would be nice to have this for 2.11, so Thief 1 & 2 players can have a better experience.
I have been playing with the patch I provided above, and it's improved the gameplay a lot. No more frustrations.
If a reason was found for not applying the patch as is, having a cvar for this at the very least would improve the game.
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

21.01.2023 22:01

developer   ~0015841

None of the original participants have moved the discussion on this.
Please submit a revised patch with a cvar and I will post about it for inclusion.
It is pretty late in the dev cycle but we will consider it.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

21.01.2023 23:47

reporter   ~0015842

@nbohr1more Thank you for considering this!
Attached revised patch.

Note: I set the default to allow mantling while shouldering.
Feel free to change the cvar name and its default as you see fit.
r10256-pm_mantle_while_shouldering.diff (2,580 bytes)   
diff --git game/Player.cpp game/Player.cpp
index 29014a8..6e84db5 100644
--- game/Player.cpp
+++ game/Player.cpp
@@ -4513,7 +4513,11 @@ void idPlayer::OnStartShoulderingBody(idEntity* body)
 
 	// TODO: Also make sure you can't grab anything else (hands are full)
 	// requires a new EIM flag?
-	SetImmobilization( "ShoulderedBody", SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS );
+	SetImmobilization( "ShoulderedBody",
+		cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering.GetBool() ?
+		(SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS & ~EIM_MANTLE) :
+		SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS
+	);
 	
 	// set hinderance
 	float maxSpeed = body->spawnArgs.GetFloat("shouldered_maxspeed","1.0f");
diff --git game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
index cc1f3c1..859ee24 100644
--- game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
+++ game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
@@ -208,6 +208,7 @@ idCVar cv_pm_softhinderance_run(	"pm_softhinderance_run",	"1.0",	CVAR_GAME | CVA
 
 idCVar cv_pm_weightmod(				"pm_weightmod",			"1",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Gets multiplied to the force applied to objects below the player model. Defaults to 1." );
 
+idCVar cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering( "pm_mantle_while_shouldering", "1", CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_BOOL, "If set to 1, allow mantling while shouldering a body." );
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_reach(			"pm_mantle_reach",		"0.5",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Horizontal reach of mantle ability, as fraction of player height.  Default is 0.5" );
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_height(			"pm_mantle_height",		"0.2",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Vertical reach of mantle ability, as fraction of player height.  Default is 0.2" );
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_minflatness(	"pm_mantle_minflatness",		"0.707",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Cannot mantle on top of surfaces whose angle's cosine is smaller than this value. e.g. >1.0 means nothing can be mantled; 1.0 means only perfectly flat floors (0 degrees) can be mantled on top of; ~0.707 means no surfaces steeper than 45 degrees can be mantled on top of; 0.5 means no surfaces steeper than 60 degrees can be mantled on top of; a large negative value (like -10) means all surfaces can be mantled regardless of steepness. Default is 0.707." );
diff --git game/gamesys/SysCvar.h game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
index f8889c8..1ee73aa 100644
--- game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
+++ game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
@@ -165,6 +165,7 @@ extern idCVar cv_tdm_footfalls_movetype_specific;
 
 extern idCVar cv_pm_weightmod;
 
+extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering;
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_height;
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_reach;
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_minflatness;
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

22.01.2023 00:05

reporter   ~0015843

Attached v2 of revised patch.

The only change is the inclusion of comments referring to this bug, 5892.
r10256-pm_mantle_while_shouldering-v2.diff (2,706 bytes)   
diff --git game/Player.cpp game/Player.cpp
index 29014a8..2dc7dab 100644
--- game/Player.cpp
+++ game/Player.cpp
@@ -4513,7 +4513,12 @@ void idPlayer::OnStartShoulderingBody(idEntity* body)
 
 	// TODO: Also make sure you can't grab anything else (hands are full)
 	// requires a new EIM flag?
-	SetImmobilization( "ShoulderedBody", SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS );
+	SetImmobilization( "ShoulderedBody",
+		cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering.GetBool() ?
+		// #5892: Mantle while carring a body
+		(SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS & ~EIM_MANTLE) :
+		SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS
+	);
 	
 	// set hinderance
 	float maxSpeed = body->spawnArgs.GetFloat("shouldered_maxspeed","1.0f");
diff --git game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
index cc1f3c1..ad66563 100644
--- game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
+++ game/gamesys/SysCvar.cpp
@@ -208,6 +208,10 @@ idCVar cv_pm_softhinderance_run(	"pm_softhinderance_run",	"1.0",	CVAR_GAME | CVA
 
 idCVar cv_pm_weightmod(				"pm_weightmod",			"1",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Gets multiplied to the force applied to objects below the player model. Defaults to 1." );
 
+
+// #5892: Mantle while carring a body
+idCVar cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering( "pm_mantle_while_shouldering", "1", CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_BOOL, "If set to 1, allow mantling while shouldering a body." );
+
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_reach(			"pm_mantle_reach",		"0.5",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Horizontal reach of mantle ability, as fraction of player height.  Default is 0.5" );
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_height(			"pm_mantle_height",		"0.2",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Vertical reach of mantle ability, as fraction of player height.  Default is 0.2" );
 idCVar cv_pm_mantle_minflatness(	"pm_mantle_minflatness",		"0.707",			CVAR_GAME | CVAR_ARCHIVE | CVAR_FLOAT, "Cannot mantle on top of surfaces whose angle's cosine is smaller than this value. e.g. >1.0 means nothing can be mantled; 1.0 means only perfectly flat floors (0 degrees) can be mantled on top of; ~0.707 means no surfaces steeper than 45 degrees can be mantled on top of; 0.5 means no surfaces steeper than 60 degrees can be mantled on top of; a large negative value (like -10) means all surfaces can be mantled regardless of steepness. Default is 0.707." );
diff --git game/gamesys/SysCvar.h game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
index f8889c8..708363f 100644
--- game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
+++ game/gamesys/SysCvar.h
@@ -165,6 +165,9 @@ extern idCVar cv_tdm_footfalls_movetype_specific;
 
 extern idCVar cv_pm_weightmod;
 
+// #5892: Mantle while carring a body
+extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_while_shouldering;
+
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_height;
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_reach;
 extern idCVar cv_pm_mantle_minflatness;
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

22.01.2023 03:20

developer   ~0015844

Rev 10257
Bikerdude

Bikerdude

22.01.2023 09:30

reporter   ~0015845

Thanks for sorting this chaps, its been a minor frustration for years.
stgatilov

stgatilov

22.01.2023 17:53

administrator   ~0015847

This change has not happened yet, it's just a cvar for testing, which is not default.
I would say mantling with shouldered body should be limited to knee/waist level.

P.S. I also would be happy to see the discussion =)
Could someone please post a link?
nbohr1more

nbohr1more

22.01.2023 18:09

developer   ~0015848

Added this link to the description:

https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21550-5982-allow-mantle-when-shouldering/
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

25.01.2023 19:14

reporter   ~0015885

I've implemented a way to enforce knee/waist height checking on mantle while shouldering a body.
Also, if the player is falling, do not allow mantle while shouldering.

The max height is based on a table from The Painter's Wife at (831.86 -350.78 777.25).
The table height is 40.41 units.
Also, the max height can be adjusted using "pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight".
1. When standing, max height is pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight + 5, which is 41.
2. When crouched, max height is pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight, which is 36;

Perhaps, after this patch is applied, the "pm_mantle_while_shouldering" cvar can be removed and "EIM_MANTLE" can be removed from SHOULDER_IMMOBILIZATIONS (same as original patch above, "mantle-carry-body-v1-r10063.diff")? In other words, apply this patch, revert Rev 10257, and apply mantle-carry-body-v1-r10063.diff.

This patch gives us something to discuss at least. Is this a good approach? What should the max height be?
r10262-low-mantle-check-while-shouldering.diff (3,813 bytes)   
diff --git game/Player.h game/Player.h
index a51a589..b4f2fd5 100644
--- game/Player.h
+++ game/Player.h
@@ -825,6 +825,8 @@ public:
 
 	void					UpdateSkinSetup( bool restart );
 
+	bool					IsShoulderingBody( void ) { return m_bShoulderingBody; };
+
 	bool					OnLadder( void ) const;
 	// Virtal override of idActor::OnElevator()
 	virtual CMultiStateMover* OnElevator(bool mustBeMoving) const;
diff --git game/physics/Physics_Player.cpp game/physics/Physics_Player.cpp
index e610f28..c57a3c7 100644
--- game/physics/Physics_Player.cpp
+++ game/physics/Physics_Player.cpp
@@ -4283,9 +4283,33 @@ void idPhysics_Player::StartMantle
 	EMantlePhase initialMantlePhase,
 	idVec3 eyePos,
 	idVec3 startPos,
-	idVec3 endPos
+	idVec3 endPos,
+	float floorHeight
 )
 {
+	// #5892: While shouldering a body, allow mantling at roughly waist height.
+	if (static_cast<idPlayer*>(self)->IsShoulderingBody())
+	{
+		const bool bIsCrouched = current.movementFlags & PMF_DUCKED;
+		const float fallingSpeed = current.velocity * gravityNormal;
+		const float endHeight = -endPos * gravityNormal;
+		const float mantleHeight = endHeight - floorHeight;
+		const float maxMantleHeight = bIsCrouched ?
+			cv_pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight.GetFloat() :     // crouched: 36
+			cv_pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight.GetFloat() + 5;  // standing: 41
+
+		// must be standing on the ground (or not falling from a jump-mantle)
+		if (!groundPlane && fallingSpeed > 0)
+			return;
+		// must be doing a non-hanging, non-pulling mantle
+		if (!(initialMantlePhase == push_DarkModMantlePhase ||
+		      initialMantlePhase == pushNonCrouched_DarkModMantlePhase))
+			return;
+		// must mantle at roughly waist height
+		if (mantleHeight > maxMantleHeight)
+			return;
+	}
+
 	// Ishtvan 10/16/05
 	// If mantling starts while on a rope, detach from that rope
 	if ( m_bOnRope )
@@ -5120,7 +5144,7 @@ void idPhysics_Player::PerformMantle()
 					|| mantleEndHeight < feetHeight + cv_pm_mantle_maxLowObstacleHeight.GetFloat()*0.66f)) // Reduce allowed obstacle height mid-air
 				{
 					// Do a fast mantle over low obstacle
-					StartMantle(pushNonCrouched_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint);
+					StartMantle(pushNonCrouched_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint, floorHeight);
 					return;
 				}
 			}
@@ -5135,7 +5159,7 @@ void idPhysics_Player::PerformMantle()
 					&& mantleEndHeight < floorHeight + pm_normalviewheight.GetFloat())
 				{
 					// Do a fast pull-push mantle over medium sized obstacle
-					StartMantle(pullFast_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint);
+					StartMantle(pullFast_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint, floorHeight);
 					return;
 				}
 			}
@@ -5144,16 +5168,16 @@ void idPhysics_Player::PerformMantle()
 				// Start with pull if on the ground, hang if not
 				if (groundPlane)
 				{
-					StartMantle(pull_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint);
+					StartMantle(pull_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint, floorHeight);
 				}
 				else
 				{
-					StartMantle(hang_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint);
+					StartMantle(hang_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint, floorHeight);
 				}
 			}
 			else
 			{
-				StartMantle(push_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint);
+				StartMantle(push_DarkModMantlePhase, eyePos, GetOrigin(), mantleEndPoint, floorHeight);
 			}
 		}
 	}
diff --git game/physics/Physics_Player.h game/physics/Physics_Player.h
index ba17de1..712d81e 100644
--- game/physics/Physics_Player.h
+++ game/physics/Physics_Player.h
@@ -571,7 +571,8 @@ protected:
 		EMantlePhase initialMantlePhase,
 		idVec3 eyePos,
 		idVec3 startPos,
-		idVec3 endPos
+		idVec3 endPos,
+		float floatHeight
 	);
 
 	/*!
table-height.jpg (1,045,613 bytes)
stgatilov

stgatilov

25.01.2023 21:26

administrator   ~0015888

I don't like the way it does not blend with the other mantling conditions.
I think we should pause this until 2.11 is over, and then have more time for testing.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

26.01.2023 06:10

reporter   ~0015890

It would be great for this to be finalized for 2.11,
so mappers know what to expect and Thief players can enjoy the game more without frustrations.
It'll be worth it.

There are two separate issues:
1. What are the rules for mantle while shouldering?
2. Code and code organization.

I think we should focus on (1) the rules for mantle while shouldering,
because the final code and code organization can be beautified after 2.11 release if needed.

I don't have access to https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21550-5982-allow-mantle-when-shouldering/.
So, I don't know what's already been discussed.

Who needs to be part of this conversion for consensus to happen about the rules (not code)?
For us to finalize the rules, it would be helpful for us to answer the following questions.

Do we really need to restrict mantling while shouldering at all?

If we restrict the player while shouldering, what should the rules be?
While shouldering, what's the tallest object that can be mantled?
While shouldering, should there be different object height requirements between crouched and standing?
While shouldering, can the player mantle during a fall or jump across to another ledge?
While shouldering, what mantle types are allowed out of: push, pushNonCrouch, pull, pullFast, hang?
(Are there other rules to consider?)
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

26.01.2023 06:10

reporter   ~0015891

My opinion is...

Do we really need to restrict mantling while shouldering at all?
  No. Games are for fun and escaping reality.
  Let the player mantle while shouldering without restrictions and frustrations.
  This matches Thief 1 & 2.

If we restrict the player while shouldering,...
While shouldering, what's the tallest object that can be mantled?
  41 units. That's based on a table at roughly waist height, which felt like the tallest reasonable object during my testing.
While shouldering, should there be different object height requirements between crouched and standing?
  Originally, I implemented separate cases, because it didn't feel quite right to have a body and mantle up so high while crouched.
  Not having a difference reduces complexity and is more predictable for the player, so now I think treat both crouched and standing the same.
While shouldering, can the player mantle during a fall or jump across to another ledge?
  No. The character is falling or hitting a ledge with force, which can be hard to handle while carrying a body.
While shouldering, what mantle types are allowed out of: push, pushNonCrouch, pull, pullFast, hang?
  I think only push and pushNonCrouch. Don't allow pull, pullFast, and hang, because they require hands.
(Are there other rules to consider?)
  None that I can think of.
Daft Mugi

Daft Mugi

26.01.2023 17:36

reporter   ~0015892

typo fix: Who needs to be part of this **conversation** for consensus to happen about the rules (not code)?
stgatilov

stgatilov

26.01.2023 20:17

administrator   ~0015895

I suspend this until 2.11 is over.
STiFU

STiFU

26.01.2023 21:16

developer   ~0015903

Daft Mugi, thank's a lot for your contributions. This will be integrated into the mod, I am sure of it, but I agree with stgatilov. Beta phase is already taking way too long as it is and a major new feature like this needs to be thoroughly tested. Beta can be quite annoying, because it hinders every dev from actually implementing new things, so we would like to get this over with soon. Maybe we could consider a 2.11 hotfix to include your patch later.

Issue History

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26.01.2022 10:16 Bikerdude New Issue
06.08.2022 10:20 Bikerdude Product Version TDM 2.09 => TDM 2.10
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22.01.2023 03:19 nbohr1more Severity normal => feature
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22.01.2023 03:19 nbohr1more Fixed in Version => TDM 2.11
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